http://www.the-gadgeteer.com/m505-palmvx-comparison-review.html

Julie- Are you turning into a Canadian?!

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Originally posted by Snikker:
"The quality of photos is good. [b]Colour depth is excellent, and resolution is good. Photos can be panned around quickly if zoomed in. You can certainly show off holiday snaps or anything else to good effect."

Julie- Are you turning into a Canadian?!
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She may be, but I wrote the review and I'm a Brit, hence the spelling :-)

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Good review.... I tried TealMovie on the m505 in Compucentre (CompUSA) and I was impressed. I thought how cute a little BMX movie, man was I shocked when I actually heard noise (Well, supposedly someone talking) But I was shocked!

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It is pretty impressive. PhotoSuite plays the videos too slowly. TealMovie plays them at the proper speed, with sound, AND allows you to browse the filesystem on the SD card.

Cheers

Any news about moulded aluminum cases from Rhino Skin or Ibiz for the 505?

I have been looking for cases and only found the ugly looking sliders. Also rhinoskin.com site is not working.

Thanks,

I don't use this setup anymore since I gave my adapter away. The main thing I eventually noticed was that the m505 doesn't synch in "Classic" mode on MacOS X--someone at Palm obviously bungled this one.

Take care,

terry

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Originally posted by jha:
excellent review. i'm a palm vx user for sometime now and planning to upgrade. my only problem is can't decide whether to get a palm m505 or compaq ipaq. please help! thanks.

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The way I see it is this:

Functionality or form.

iPaqs are more functional. The screen is better and bigger, the multimedia works, the expansion sleeve gives much more potential for options than an SD card slot.

But I own an m505 because functionality is nothing to me unless I can put it in the pockets of my jeans. A friend has an iPaq and with the case and sleeve, there is no way it's pocketable.

Both are excellent machines.

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Originally posted by jha:
excellent review. i'm a palm vx user for sometime now and planning to upgrade. my only problem is can't decide whether to get a palm m505 or compaq ipaq. please help! thanks.

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Unsure? get a Sony.

505 screen too dim for your tastes, Sony is much brighter, (not quite as bright as Ipaq, yet bright nevertheless)

Compaq to big? Especially with the sleeve? Sony is noticably smaller with built in expansion.(not quite as small as the 505 but acceptable for most.)

Want MP3s? 505 lacking here. Sony can do it. (as does the Ipaq)

Cant give up your favorite Palm software but love the high rez Ipaq screen?
Sony gives you both.

For some people the Ipaq is a no brainer.
For others the 505 is an obvious choice.

However...

• SD is physically smaller (noticably thinner) than MMC.
• SD has a hardware write-protect switch, which MMC lacks.
• SD is quite a bit faster than MMC, especially when moving/copying large files (we're talking 20 seconds vs. close to 2 minutes for moving a really big file - if you're backing up to an MMC card, it will take a LOT longer than it would to back up to SD).
• SD is more resistant to electro-static discharge.
• A 16MB SD card will have less free space out of the box than a 16MB MMC card, due to the presence of that copyright protection software.
  

I put together a little web page discussing the difference in the media, which can be found at:

http://www.geocities.com/romidar/mmcvssd.htm

Danny

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Originally posted by Islandpalm:
Unsure? get a Sony.
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For those in the middle
Sony is the way to go.

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hey thanks a lot! will make a second hard look at it.

by the way islandpalm, what pda are you using now?

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Originally posted by jha:
hey thanks a lot! will make a second hard look at it.
by the way islandpalm, what pda are you using now?

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Had a Vx and was ready to upgrade.
I was excited about the 505 when it came out. Was very disappointed with the screen. Checked out the Ipaq too. Gadgetteer likes it for good reason. Loved the screen. But I love my palm software. DB4, Shadowplan, Lifebalance, Thinkdb, Vindigo, Wordsmith ect. Both an investment in money, and time in tweaking software systems to suit my needs. Then there is size. Prior to my Vx I had a Palm Pilot Pro. I have been spoiled by my Vx for size. Even my Sony which is smaller than a Pilotpro, PalmIII series, Visor or Ipaq is on the extreme edge of what I would use size wise. Actually the Clie is in fact NARROWER than a 505 from side to side. However the thinness of the 500 series is optimal IMHO.

Am I saying that Sony is the best? No. In my view the Ipaq has the best screen by a narrow margin, despite Sonys greater resolution. Although Sony CAN do music quite well, the Ipaq does it more seamlessly. The "zen of Palm" does not apply to multimedia on a Sony. Video is also better on an Ipaq. Ditto for its speaker.
For anyone who has a high priority on multimedia the Ipaq is a better choice than my Sony.

The 505 is clearly smaller than the Sony. Although this seems minor it can be a huge consideration.

For me it was 505 size vs Sony screen. Screen won out. Others may feel differently.

So I would readily recomend a 505 for someone who puts a really high premium on size.

Why do I feel you are suited for Sony?

If the Ipaqs multimedia advantage was really important to you, how could you even consider a 505?

If size was the primary consideration, how could you even consider the Ipaq, and its large sleeves?

If either were true you wouldnt be torn.

But the compromise?
2nd best reflective screen on any PDA,(best screen in the opinion of some) acceptable multimedia, second smallest color unit of any PDA.

Welcome to the world of Sony. You will love it.

As for the Rhinoskin case, it'll be out within a week or so according to the e-mail I got from their sales dept. Franlin Covey is already selling a metal case that looks even nicer, IMHO. I'm not sure if Zero Halliburton has one yet, but their V-series one is gorgeous...

I do have the Slider case for the V/m505 series, and it fits the m505 nicely (although you can't use the IR window with it, it doesn't line up right for the m500 series).

The speed increase you are seeing is due to the fact that they are able to send more serial frames across the "wider" USB hardware connection than the serial connection of previous Palm units, however, it is definately still a serial device.

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Originally posted by RenM:
[B]Nice review overall.

However...

Regarding performance, the author of the review states that the 505 is "Far quicker than Vx, and way faster than the IIIc and also the iPaq" when switching between apps. He failed to offer the caveat that switching between apps on the desktop is hardly a measure of true performance. The author gives the impression that the 505 is faster than the iPaq overall. Nothing could be further from the truth as it has been proven beyond a doubt that no PDA currently in the market, Palm OS or PocketPC is faster than these devices running on the StrongARM 206MHz. B]

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I think the author's reference to "faster" was a realtive matter, not just brute strength of the processor. I've seen the same thing - switching between PIM tasks, calling up a specific contact, etc. "seem" faster on the M505 than the iPaq. No doubt, iPaq has the processor power - but just not as snappy in real world experience.

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Originally posted by dstrauss:
I think the author's reference to "faster" was a realtive matter, not just brute strength of the processor. I've seen the same thing - switching between PIM tasks, calling up a specific contact, etc. "seem" faster on the M505 than the iPaq. No doubt, iPaq has the processor power - but just not as snappy in real world experience.

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