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Judie
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posted 05-23-2002 07:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Judie   Click Here to Email Judie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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forrester
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posted 05-23-2002 09:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for forrester     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like the sound (pardon the pun) of this device. My auto's tape deck died a year ago and for the price of a new tape deck, I could buy 5-6 of these devices. This product is a wonderful idea and it is great to hear that it works.

Matt from Sydney
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posted 05-23-2002 09:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I found a similar generic device in Tokyo last year whilst living there. It was sold as for in car use with a portable CD player, but I used it to rebroadcast overseas radio stations I was streaming off the net to FM radios around the house. Obviously whilst living in Japan I couldn't pick up my favorite radio station from home in Australia and as English language broadcasts are limited, the net was the best source of streamed radio. BTW the one I have also works well in the car with my PDA. Whilst the iRock is not a new idea (kits to build your own lower power FM retransmitters have been around for years) it definitely looks sexier than the one I have.
Cheers...Matt

Roberto
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posted 05-23-2002 11:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Roberto   Click Here to Email Roberto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm... very interesting.
However, I must admit that I was a bit disappointed to read that it takes batteries. It drives me crazy to have to feed my toys power pellets. Does this have an option for AC?

Rob :^)

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posted 05-24-2002 07:30 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The problem I see with the Irock is with its frequency choices, or lack thereof. I live in the NYC area, and so my 88.x FM band is all filled up. I would rather have the option to tune any frequency between 87.9 and 107.3 (or whatever the upper and lower registers of FM are).
Judie, I seem to remember that you live in the Texas area- would you be able to test the Irock on a frequency that has an actual station, and measure if the Irock overpowers it on your stereo? If it could do that, then I would run out and purchase at least one.
Otherwise, I'm still stuck looking for a low cost FM Adaptor that plugs inline with the FM antenna to the back of my stereo (and losing the portability of a device like the Irock).

McLaugh

Mogulman
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posted 05-24-2002 09:57 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know if they still sell it, but Radio Shack used to sell a small adapter that did the same thing as the iRock. I saw it at a store about 6 months ago. I can't remember the frequencies that it used, but it seemed to use a different range.

Judie
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posted 05-24-2002 10:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Judie   Click Here to Email Judie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
mclaugh,
I live in a remote area of West Texas - San Angelo - and so the frequency choices offered by the irock! were perfect for me. I will be in Orlando next weekend, so I bet I could try it out there and post something afterwards.

Judie :0)

Chronos
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posted 05-24-2002 11:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chronos   Click Here to Email Chronos     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Judie,

How is the sound quality- FM quality, or does the sound degrade (I remember the casette adapters always sounded quite tinny)? I'm going to pick one up- $29 + $9 for 2 day air to my location... may be a great way to listen to Audible books and MP3s while sitting in the DC beltway parking lot each am and pm

Judie
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posted 05-24-2002 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Judie   Click Here to Email Judie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chronos,
I think the replay sound quality greatly depends on the quality of the recording, but most should sound fine over your FM radio. I did find that I needed to adjust the bass, as it was a little higher on my recording than my system needed.

Listening to Audible books would be a great application for this device!

Judie :0)

[This message has been edited by Judie (edited 05-24-2002).]

psxp
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posted 05-25-2002 12:19 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi there,

I got a iRock with the purchase of my iRiver SlimX MP3 CD Player from www.mp3playerstore.com and tried it last month when I hired a car to go to a job interview. I had the player in the back seat and here in Toronto there are stations on the 88.x frequency but I found the iRock over powered the stations which was good.

2 points with I did not like - Batteries only, no AC plug and the switch is too easy to get switched on by mistake if you have it in your bag.. and drain your batteries.

Otherwise a great device.

B

EllenBeeman
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posted 05-25-2002 08:34 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a crazy use I'd like to try with this...connect it to my MP3-playing Ipaq in a backpack or fanny pack, then pick up the broadcast on a pair of FM-receiving headphones. I've been trying for a while to securely carry my Ipaq as an MP3 player while jogging, and this could be it. Has anyone tried this?

---Ell

yellow1
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posted 05-26-2002 07:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hum...I tried several of these gizmos in the past (including the Ratshack one) and always found the sound to be of a poor quality due to the static of the FM broadcast.
Have iRock improved on this ? I remember that it was a power limitation imposed by the FCC, i.e. they didn't want you to interfere with the radio reception of your cars stuck in a traffic jam with you !

DavidM
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posted 05-27-2002 03:36 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have tried the iRock with the Sony digital FM headset and experience some static and drop offs.
Maybe the analog type of headset FM would do better.

gizmoheadbob
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posted 05-27-2002 12:34 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I tried one for a friend. He's got recording facilities at home and a good ear. Funny story, in my Miata we tried it first, then transferred it to his car. Driving to a eating place in caravan, I turned on my radio about three cars ahead of him in traffic. The station was still set at 88.1 just like when I tested the device. I heard the broadcast from his car perfectly! My friend was so excited at my hand signals that at the next stop light he ran up to my car to listen, getting yelled at by obnoxious motorist. Fun!

He reports the following:
- quality has some static but acceptable given the convenience
- coverage goes around the FM radio intercom system in his old house
- battery life is not so good, but rechargeables could solve that.

bob

Chris Miller
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posted 05-28-2002 11:18 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Back in the days when I drove a 77' Olds land barge (10 years ago) that had radio only (no cassette) I used a thingy called a "Sound Feeder". It acted as both a universal power adapter 3v-12v to power your device and it transmitted on a FM frequency. Big turnoff for the iRock (which I have seen in stores locally) is it uses batteries only.

Redhed97
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posted 05-29-2002 02:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I tried one of these for my iPaq from CompUSA a couple weeks ago and I did not have great luck with mine in Fort Worth, TX. In between home and work there were several places where signal would drop or very loud static or other stations would bleed through. Often this seemed to be under bridges, etc. I think the choices are too few on the frequency too- 3 out of 4 in DFW have strong stations on them, and the one that worked (88.7?) had a pretty weak station on it. Could be great though if you use it in an area with an uncrowded dial though...

Loren
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posted 06-14-2002 12:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I bought an iRock and used it with my iPod driving 5 hours each way from New York City to Washington DC last weekend.

I found the sound quality to be just OK. Better than AM radio, but not perfect.

I tried different frequencies in different locations. for the most part it was completely acceptable, but not as good as broadcast radio, or a CD.

DSNLG
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posted 07-07-2002 06:39 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Had the iRock! for 2 months and then it stopped working. The wires in the headphine cable must have come loose or something. It was just sitting in my glovebox with my portable CD player - regular use - when it just up and died.

I tried to exchange it at RadioShit but the sales person said that all returns must be accompanied by original packaging. I asked him "who saves the original packaging?" and he said "everybody." Bull. You buy a product under the pretense that it is going to work. If it does you discard the packaging - which was ruined upon opening anyways - if it doesn't, you return it. if it craps out after two months of regular use...?

Passingby
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posted 07-15-2002 02:53 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mclaugh:
The problem I see with the Irock is with its frequency choices, or lack thereof. I live in the NYC area, and so my 88.x FM band is all filled up. I would rather have the option to tune any frequency between 87.9 and 107.3 (or whatever the upper and lower registers of FM are).
McLaugh

There's another device that claims to transmit to any FM frequency of your choice. I haven't tried it, so can't speak to how good it is.
The Soundfeeder Wireless Audio Adapter
http://www.arkon.com/SF120.htm

some random guy
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posted 08-11-2002 08:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have an application to try for the irock!... Have a computer and stereo in my room, and was thinking about hooking an irock! to it, and then get a cheap waterproof radio for the shower so I can hear my tunes. Would anyone like to try it? My concerns are how the signal travels through walls, and that whole 10+ ft. distance.

Fer Fer
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posted 08-23-2002 09:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just bought one a few days ago. I think it's awesome. I have an older car with no cd player, and the tape deck is broken. It comes in just like the radio while playing my cd's. I was plesantly suprised and delighted. I LOVE IT! Definately worth the 30 bucks.

iPod freak
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posted 08-26-2002 05:24 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I bought an iRock with my iPod, and am quite disappointed in the performance of this little unit. Basically it is incapable of overpowering even very weak stations fully, so what I get is the sound of a static-ridden radio station. Not exactly what I was expecting!

I live near LA, so virtually every part of the radio spectrum has stuff on it. Perhaps the reviewer of this unit lives in an area where the 88.1-.7 is completely unused. This might be a little better in that case.

If I didn't live so far from where I bought this thing I would probably return it. In short:

(1) Sound quality is poor
(2) Does a bad job of blocking out other stations
(3) Batteries only, no provision for power
(4) Too easy to turn it on during storage

Joel

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posted 08-30-2002 11:44 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Agreed. I live in Denver and have a similar complaint. I can get it to work on the lowest frequency, but the quality is poor. My old taps sound better than what I get through the iRock. I’m going to keep looking for a better solution.


The

quote:
Originally posted by iPod freak:
I bought an iRock with my iPod, and am quite disappointed in the performance of this little unit. Basically it is incapable of overpowering even very weak stations fully, so what I get is the sound of a static-ridden radio station. Not exactly what I was expecting!

I live near LA, so virtually every part of the radio spectrum has stuff on it. Perhaps the reviewer of this unit lives in an area where the 88.1-.7 is completely unused. This might be a little better in that case.

If I didn't live so far from where I bought this thing I would probably return it. In short:

(1) Sound quality is poor
(2) Does a bad job of blocking out other stations
(3) Batteries only, no provision for power
(4) Too easy to turn it on during storage

Joel


No Cons?
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posted 08-31-2002 08:09 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How about that it does not have a Car adapter?

moribelli
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posted 10-01-2002 02:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I eagerly purchased my iRock and plugged it in to my car stereo and low and behold!

More static and poor reception that I would ever have expected! I tried several presets and even a few other cars.

I think they should seriously consider changing names from iRock to iSuck. Mine is going back to the company faster than you can say, iSuckBigTime!

Judie
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posted 10-01-2002 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Judie   Click Here to Email Judie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
moribelli,

Do you like in a very populated area wwith lots of radio stations? I am just trying to see why yours performed so poorly.

Thanks,

Judie :0)

LeftyX
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posted 10-08-2002 06:47 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I bought the irock at Radio Shack. I live in the Washington DC area and the reception was terrible. I even tried a second unit but still got terrible reception. Must be because of all the fm stations around here.

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posted 10-27-2002 06:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for zodbot   Click Here to Email zodbot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Im sorry but has anybody A and b this device with a straight wired connection. Its night and day. The irock narrows and compresses the stereo field. And put on a CD of some old Beatle tunes , you know the ones where you hear an instument on the Left side or right. The Irock will make some instruments go away and say goodbye to some of the backing vocals. I put on Fresh Cream and thought there was something wrong with my CD , it made whole music lines disappear. I believe that its doing something to the Phase like as in NOT IN PHASE. Im sending my Irock back to the manufacturer with a big negative TRY AGAIN BOZOS!

Subtlecaffeine
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I picked up a SoundFeeder SF120 (mentioned above, does give you full range of FM band) and I live in Northern Virginia. The first thing I did was take the 3" telescopic antenna off and put a bigger one on...not too big...maybe a foot. This increased the range and quality a bit (which, the specs say you get 4-6 ft, but even out of box I got more than that...most likely like 10, it was in the basement and I was upstairs and it worked, Stereo came in, fuzzy tho, but, it came in.

As far as station selection, it does an EXCELLENT job of letting you select an empty fequency. I have a RatShack DX-398 so I was accurately able to detect the fequencies, and it did an excellent job.

Using the larger antenna on the SF, I tuned it to 87.55 (exact fequency, well, close enough to exact) and about 40 ft from the unit, if I oriented the antenna correctly, still had full signal.

and I picked this up at a thrift store for a buck.

The Wraith
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posted 11-17-2002 09:06 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Subtlecaffine:

How good is the quality? And with the basic antenna attached? And how's battery life?

SubtleCaffeine
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posted 11-18-2002 06:05 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm quite pleased with the audio quality, it sounds better than most products I've tried.

The supplied antenna is complete crap, a little 3.5 inch telescoping unit, this WILL give you maybe 12 ft of broadcast, but your stereo will have LOTS of noise, I put a dipole off a portable TV on (the TV was broke, I want the one off my Sony radio) and this gave me an increadable 40 some feet of broadcast range with very little signal loss, although, your milage may vary, ,I'musing a RadioShack DX-398, which is a clone of the Sangean ATS-909, which is known for it's excellent high quality tuner and sensitive FM selection.

The trick to getting the most ouf of this unit, don't overload it with bass, treble or volume, the battery life is good, I ran it all night on the battery that was labeled "best if installed by 2000", and I can play Virgin Radio 105.8FM out of London anywhere in my house.

If you DO add or make an antenna, make sure you don't go over quarter-wave length of the fequency you want to broadcast on, you'll aucutally reduce your signal output and consume more power.

SubtleCaffeine
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posted 11-18-2002 06:06 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
another thing I might add...

this unit is supposed to comply with FCC Part 15, but FCC Part 15 states that a Part 15 compliant product must have a fixed antenna or an antenna with a "unique connector"


someone's layin down on the job. grab them while you can.

djwicked
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posted 11-19-2002 03:25 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i just purchased the irock and it seems to work great.im going to use the i rock at my work place. its going to hook to a computer in the lab, so everyone in the shop can hear internet radio.my only problem is range. does anyone know how to boost the power. maybe a power suply and bigger transister or a external anteana.any electro geeks please reply.
thank you, DjWicked

nohsim
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posted 11-24-2002 05:34 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm.. I want to get the SoundFeeder SF100, but it only uses a car adapter. and the SF120 only uses batteries. Y can't one of them use both. I want to be able to use it outside the car without using batteries all the time. Is there an adapter for a car plug to batteries?

gadgetnewbie
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posted 12-07-2002 07:47 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Subtlecaffiene:

That Soundfeeder setup sounds great!

How difficult a mod would it be for someone like me, whose never modded anything at all?

JerryWojo
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Bought the Irock today. Pretty happy with it so far. Used it in the car with various players with good success. Some static and fade however this is oddly acceptable due to my music preferences and interests...vintage 1930's music,big band era swing and oldtime radio shows. Many of my recording are of a lower fidelity so high quality standards is not neccassarily a requirement.

Had the Soundfeeder unit for awhile,was not to happy with. Picked up static from the car engine somehow. However home use was perfect

One thing is when I hold the Irock reception is much better. Is there anything I can do to replicate this without holding it all the time?

JW

eyeguy
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posted 12-30-2002 11:57 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why are so many things powered by AAA instead of AA batteries? The AA last much longer and are less expensive, the difference in size is negligible. I always hated that in the old Plam pilots and Visors, too.

ddimond
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It doesn't seem to matter if any of the available channels are full. When the IROCK! is powered up it clears the channel. It really helps to have a digitale tuner so you can get 88.1, 8.3, etc. exactly.

I use my IROCK! with an Archos MP3 20gig player which holds about 10,000 songs. The only drawback I see is that the two AAA batteries I used only lasted about two hours. I solved that by buying a battery recharger and four rechargeable nickle metal hydride AAAs (a $25 investment at Radio Shack). The nickle metal hydrides do not have a "memory".

Die
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quote:
Originally posted by iPod freak:
I bought an iRock with my iPod, and am quite disappointed in the performance of this little unit. Basically it is incapable of overpowering even very weak stations fully, so what I get is the sound of a static-ridden radio station. Not exactly what I was expecting!

I live near LA, so virtually every part of the radio spectrum has stuff on it. Perhaps the reviewer of this unit lives in an area where the 88.1-.7 is completely unused. This might be a little better in that case.

If I didn't live so far from where I bought this thing I would probably return it. In short:

(1) Sound quality is poor
(2) Does a bad job of blocking out other stations
(3) Batteries only, no provision for power
(4) Too easy to turn it on during storage

Joel



I've had a simmilar experience. It never sounds as good as regular FM brodcasts and often has unacceptable levels of static. I thought that it was just because I live in a city where the 88.* stations are all occupied but then I went on a road trip through middle of nowhere Michigan, Ohio and West Virginia and the iRock still sounded like shit. I'd try the different frequencies to get one that wasn't too static-y and then before even one or two songs were over the static woudl return. Also, on the road, I found that the 2-4 miles I'd travel during a song would be enough to change the stations received at a given frequency.

And the fact that it can easily be turned on by accident and run down the batteries is unbeleivably lame.

ploojax
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posted 01-13-2003 12:46 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Although it's a great little gadget, it's practically useless in any city of size. All the 88.X frequencies in my city are used up or have terrible bleedover. Before you buy, check your freqs.


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