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Judie
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posted 07-03-2002 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Judie   Click Here to Email Judie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Post your comments here on the Avoglio PDA Sleeve.

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aflan
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posted 07-03-2002 06:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aflan   Click Here to Email aflan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WHAT! $169

That's just way too pricey. I know they are exotic but that's too much jones. It's ironic that I've suggested to a couple of companies to make the same thing in a nice soft leather but no interest!! Now I'm converted to the Ipaq 38xx coverpaq anyway so I doubt I'll be switching.

Have a good one

Allen

Trixie
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posted 07-03-2002 08:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Trixie   Click Here to Email Trixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like it!!

The only thing I would change is a flap with a snap on it to cover the top. Two main reasons...1- to completely protect it when in my purse...2- so my MS will stay put if it decides to pop out like it usually does.

Looks very nice!

Trix

forrester
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posted 07-03-2002 10:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for forrester     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like the idea, a plain slipcase for keeping your device in a bag, etc, but this is too expensive. I use an m515 with a Personality Pack (thanks Julie)! and like holding the nekkid Palm in my hand. Still, a simple pouch would be nice if the price was right.

Cornelis
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posted 07-04-2002 02:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cornelis   Click Here to Email Cornelis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I find it very disturbing, that you don't realize that you are using the skin of exotic animals for. For what? A PDA case? I would recommend that you try giving companies the hint to make better thought out cases on the basis of other materials, but not of exotic animals.
Don't get me wrong I own 3 pairs of leather shoes, 2 leather jackets and my Palm came with a leather screen protector. But after that I choose carefully. Yes I am a vegetarian (not one of those hardcore ones though, I eat eggs and use dairy products), but again I choose to not take animal life lightly.
This probably doesn't really bother you since you are a ranch hand/owneress and have a lot to do with livestock and all that goes with it, but hey, it's a natural being...

I can't agree on this one with you about the cases. The form factor is great, very simple, but, please, a different non-natural material would have been way better. What a waste of skin! :-(

Snikker
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posted 07-04-2002 06:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Snikker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I also must say I think it is just plain odd. The case itself IMO doesn't look very nice, took easy to damage the top of the PDA (it looks like all the original cases that come with a PDA) and you want to use rare species just for a CASE!?! Nope. I honestly can say I don't own a thing made from leather or any hide for that matter. I realize some people REALLY want skins, but personally, just give me a titanium case and we will call it even/ Besides, the price is outrageous for something, AGAIN IMO LOOKS LIKE THE CASE THAT COMES WITH YOUR PDA.

Judie
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posted 07-04-2002 11:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Judie   Click Here to Email Judie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cornelis: I totally understand your concerns about using the skins of alligators, and if it were a situation where the Louisiana alligators were harvested soley for their hides, I would find it disturbing, too.

I am engaged to a person from Louisiana, so I asked him about the Louisiana 'Gator industry. Even though I already knew that people eat alligator (heck, I've even tried it), I just wondered what he knew about the overall industry and how the animals were harvested.

He said that the lower end of Louisiana is total swamp-land. It is also over-run with alligators, which are a people-nuisance in some areas. The true Cajuns live in these areas. They actualy use boats to get around, not cars - they live in the swamps, with all that that entails, just like you see in the movies.

The aligator industry is state regulated, so these Cajuns have to apply for permits to harvest these critters, which they do as their sole form of income for their families.

Not a single portion of the alligator is ever wasted, whether it is to be eaten by humans, used for leather accessories, or whatever.

I can't really speak for the ostrich industry, but I do know that people also eat those birds' meat and their eggs. I would imagine that just like emus, the oils from the ostrichs' skins are used for many health products here and abroad. So I believe that this is another "total-animal" industry that is using the hide as a by-product of a "for-slaughter" animal.

I realize that as a vegetarian you may still find this disturbing, but as a rancher, I understand and respect the concept that nothing is going to waste, and that the animal is not soley being killed for it's hide.

Snikker: This case was designed to look like the sleeve that comes with the iPAQ, I stated that in my review. There are people that like the form factor of the sleeve design, but that want it to be made from something nicer than pleather.

Also, neither Louisiana Alligators nor ostrich are considered "rare" species, just exotic (which basically means they are not cow, goat or sheep).

Hope this helps,
Judie :0)

[This message has been edited by Judie (edited 07-04-2002).]

Avoglio
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posted 07-04-2002 05:32 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Judie for the explanation so far. We do agree with everything you stated and would like to add some more facts about the leather gathering:

1) The aligator skin is not wasted in any way. Even the smallest parts of a skin will be used for production (not ours but other industry), e.g. for watch bracelets and other smaller items. Its a complete big worldwide industry.

2) By dealing with such exotic animals we need to follow strickt worldwide governmental rules. We need to get a registration number for <b>each</b> skin which we buy. This number certifies that that skin was gathered according to the Washington Convention to save animals.
We as a company keep this written document if we are being asked by customs or other authorities. Especially the US takes much care for such regulations.

3) In Louisiana there exist farms which keep aligators like others keep cows or pigs. Those are the skins we use as well as the ones Judie describes. BTW the Louisiana aligator is the worlds most prescious and famous.

The same applies to ostrich from South Africa. They have farms were ostrich are kept.

Be assured that no one of our partners deals with wild animals or their products.

One more word to the comments regarding the open top of the case:

The case is strong enough to keep your handheld inside even if flipped around 180 degrees. Personally I happened to have 3 recents drops of my iPAQ inside the cover and, guess what, the case absorbed it all from 1meter height and more. You won't need a top close.
The reason for the open top is important for iPAQ users. They will still be able to see the flashing alarm light when inside the Avoglio case. In addition its easier to get the handheld out of the case.

Regarding the pricing one last thing. Compare our products with the world market. You will find that many of the more sophisticated products easily reach 130-150 US$. For that price they offer ordenary cow skin. Are you really willing to buy ordenary cow skin (even if printed aligator or ostrich style) ? Would you buy a fake ?
Or would you prefer to add just some little more dollar (10-30) and have a dream come true: your personal real excotic leather case in your very own color !

<b>I</b> know what I would do .. 8)

DanW
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posted 07-09-2002 12:10 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Way to pricey! I would settle for plain leather if you would offer it for under $75.00. I know that the high end leather that you do use is of higher quality but there is NO way I could sneek that price past my wife!

This is the exact case that I am looking for though. Any chance of coming out with a "Poor Man's" version?

avoglio
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posted 07-09-2002 05:05 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We deal in most prestigeous market which means we focus on aligator and ostrich for our superiour quality products.
Unfortunately this means you wife might already have a nice birthdays/wedding day/chistmas gift for you 8)

Adapture
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posted 10-12-2002 01:02 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Julie, the Avoglio case looks like a luxurious case. However, this is not the only case that "takes pda cases to the next level". We, at Adapture' think the PreZent Case (all aluminum) is the most unique and unusual hard-shelled case yet offered for sale. The PreZent Case incorporates a thick, tough outer shell and dual belt clips for the ultimate in impact and drop protection as well as a one-of-a-kind open/close linkage system for virtually "instant" PDA accessibility while you wear it. To boot...the case fits most PDAs and Pocket PCs so you're less likely to have to buy a new case when you change out your PDA therefore paying more for a case can make sense. The case is not inexpensive at just under $200 and is only available through our web site, Adapture, at this time.

Julie
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posted 10-12-2002 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Julie   Click Here to Email Julie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Adapture:

Your case looks very interesting! I'll be contacting you for more info shortly.

For everyone else, check here:
http://www.adapture.com/PreZent/

Julie

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