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Julie
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posted 10-16-2002 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Julie   Click Here to Email Julie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Post your comments here on the Handspring Treo 300 Review.

http://www.the-gadgeteer.com/treo300-review.html

Just click the POST REPLY button on this page.

MattCatt
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posted 10-17-2002 12:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MattCatt   Click Here to Email MattCatt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a bit worried and troubles. I've bought a Treo 180g recently, found that it was full of problems, got a new Treo from the importer in Belgium, and turned it in again... I honoustly wouldn't dare to buy such an expensive device, unless I would be sure that it works without failure... Good luck Julie!

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posted 10-17-2002 01:29 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have been researching the PDA/Phone combo market for some time now. I was leaning toward the Treo 300 or 270 but needed a final push. This review definately gave me that push with very usefull information, tips and best of all feedback from an actual user. Done deal!

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posted 10-17-2002 07:29 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But how is it as a PHONE? How's the signal strength? How many calls were dropped?

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posted 10-17-2002 08:07 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But... This isn't 3G. It's 2.5G

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posted 10-17-2002 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Funmap   Click Here to Email Funmap     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You can use the great free program Newpen that allows you to write on the screen using Graffiti. It works really great, I think. I even use it on my new Sony Clié SJ30.

The download is available from http://pm.gicom.de/palm/newpen093.zip

Cheers

Karim

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posted 10-17-2002 10:13 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Now that the OS5 will be out soon, I think it's best to wait for a PDA/Phone from any of the Palm OS Manufacturers. I would prefer to wait from innovative Sony Clié's line of products. I have always been tempted to preorder the NX but on second thought, Clié PDA/Phone would be a worth wait for us especially if bundled with integrated wifi and bluetooth. If Microsoft can do it with their upcoming Smarthphone edition, why not Handspring or Sony? Just a thought!

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posted 10-17-2002 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tthiel   Click Here to Email tthiel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Every Treo I have seen has a horribly pixelated screen and they feel cheap and plasticky.

irq
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posted 10-17-2002 11:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for irq   Click Here to Email irq     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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But how is it as a PHONE? How's the signal strength? How many calls were dropped?

The phone portion, like I said in the review, is very, very good. The signal strength is noticeibly higher than my previous phone, which was a Motorola Timeport. I've not yet had a single dropped call, though they are to be expected every once in a while on any cell phone.

Dan Parsons

[This message has been edited by Julie (edited 10-17-2002).]

irq
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posted 10-17-2002 11:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for irq   Click Here to Email irq     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Anonymous:
But... This isn't 3G. It's 2.5G

Correct, Mr. Anonymous, that's why every time I mentioned "3G" I put it in quotes I used the term 3G because that is what its marketed as... if I used 2.5G some people wouldn't understand.

Dan Parsons

[This message has been edited by irq (edited 10-17-2002).]

irq
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posted 10-17-2002 11:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for irq   Click Here to Email irq     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by tthiel:
Every Treo I have seen has a horribly pixelated screen and they feel cheap and plasticky.

I have not used other Treos, but the Treo 300 does not exhibit any of the things you mentioned. The screen is far, far less pixelated than the Pixelation King, the Palm IIIc. And it is very solid, does not bend when i squeeze it (that's the Julie test, forgot to mention it in my review). It is more solid feeling than my previous palm, a Clie PEG-N760C.

Dan Parsons

[This message has been edited by irq (edited 10-17-2002).]

irq
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posted 10-17-2002 11:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for irq   Click Here to Email irq     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just a word of warning, for anyone out there that uses the PalmOS AIM client: it stinks. It really messed up my Treo last night, but luckily I was able to fix it without a hard reset. Basically, AIM managed to corrupt itself somehow, and would cause the Treo to reset itself, after every reset. The only way to stop it was to do a up-arrow reset, and then delete AIM. Took me a while to figure out that I had to delete it, though.

Will someone please make a new AIM client for PalmOS?

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Dan Parsons

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posted 10-17-2002 03:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The review was very good, could you expand a bit on how to shorten the MIDI files and maybe some good sources for these.

Also will you review the Toshiba phone and YISO card by Sprint.

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posted 10-17-2002 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nrosser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dan - question about Switcheroo -

I have a Treo, have had it for about 2 months, and really love it. I'm reading the readme file on Switcheroo, and I'm wondering about the functionality. If I assign apps to certain letters, and those apps are activated when I press the blue key and the letter to launch the app, wouldn't that conflict with the need to get the accented character that's on the letter key? Say I want the # sign for example (on top of the letter O), and I've assigned some app to the letter O - how would that work? I use pretty much all those accented characters, so did you come up with a better way, or do you not need many of those accented characters, or what? Just curious, as I like the looks of Switcheroo, and wonder how you use it. Thanks!

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posted 10-17-2002 03:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nrosser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Never mind on the Switcheroo question -

you actually have to press the Blue button and the space bar - THEN the letter prompt thing comes up. Thus, no conflict with the accented characters. (you might want to edit the review to make note of the space bar thing - kinda minor though, really)

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posted 10-17-2002 05:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for irq   Click Here to Email irq     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by veroi:
The review was very good, could you expand a bit on how to shorten the MIDI files and maybe some good sources for these.

Also will you review the Toshiba phone and YISO card by Sprint.


Thank you for the kind words. Covering custom ringtone creation in the review was off-topic enough, covering how to shorten MIDI files would be pushing it too far, I think. Besides, the method I personally use for shortening MIDI files is insane, there has to be a better way, I'd almost be embarassed to post it here.

I personally wont be reviewing the two things you mentioned, but Julie or Judie or someone else might. Try asking them

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irq
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posted 10-17-2002 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for irq   Click Here to Email irq     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by nrosser:
Never mind on the Switcheroo question -

you actually have to press the Blue button and the space bar - THEN the letter prompt thing comes up. Thus, no conflict with the accented characters. (you might want to edit the review to make note of the space bar thing - kinda minor though, really)


Took me a while to figure out how it works too! Switcheroo's documentation could a little work, I guess. If editing my review was easy I would put in the comments you mentioned, and correct a few grammatical errors on my part, but...

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Well, that's not correct. 3G, by the governing industry standard, has 2 main requirements: peak speed over 100kb/s and NO degradation of network capacity.

Sprint's peak speed is 144 kb/s, and not only doesn't have a negative impact on capacity from 3G devices, it actually increases capacity (doubles).

In comparison, today's GSM system speed is 70 kb/s peak, and each device competes (read:takes away ) from available network capacity.This is why they must use the term 2.5G .

With this,and the superior security for wirless data, you can see why down the road (maybe 2004 or 2005) the world standard for all systems will be a CDMA based system.

RO

quote:
Originally posted by irq:
Correct, Mr. Anonymous, that's why every time I mentioned "3G" I put it in quotes I used the term 3G because that is what its marketed as... if I used 2.5G some people wouldn't understand.

Dan Parsons

[QUOTE]Originally posted by irq:
[B] Correct, Mr. Anonymous, that's why every time I mentioned "3G" I put it in quotes I used the term 3G because that is what its marketed as... if I used 2.5G some people wouldn't understand.

Dan Parsons

[This message has been edited by irq (edited 10-17-2002).]


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Personally, I'm waiting for the Gadgeteer's review of the Kyocera 7135- the specs are amazing compared to the Treo 300.

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posted 10-19-2002 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KRamsauer   Click Here to Email KRamsauer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You mention ". I don't know why this one has a 4-conductor connector on it, as only 3 are needed." I think the 4th allows you to pick up and hang up with the headset.

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posted 10-20-2002 02:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for irq   Click Here to Email irq     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's pretty funny, I didn't even notice there was a button on the headset until now...thanks

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Originally posted by KRamsauer:
You mention ". I don't know why this one has a 4-conductor connector on it, as only 3 are needed." I think the 4th allows you to pick up and hang up with the headset.

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No need to respond. I just wanted to compliment you as this was by far the best Treo 300 review I've seen so far. I've had mine for almost 2 months & use the crap out of it but I still learned a thing or two from your review.

This is my fourth phone/pda device and is far superior to anything else I've seen.... provided you don't need to get Sprint tech support involved in anything.

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Does using Treo300SMS to send and receive short messages use up lots of bandwidth? It sounds like a good solution, but I'm afraid that because of the way that it works that just a relatively small number of messages will quickly burn through the 8 MB/month of data I'm allowed (or whatever plan I get).

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posted 10-22-2002 06:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for irq   Click Here to Email irq     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This isn't so much of a concern anymore, because Sprint offers unlimited Vision for $10 a month now.

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Originally posted by DaviddesJ:
Does using Treo300SMS to send and receive short messages use up lots of bandwidth? It sounds like a good solution, but I'm afraid that because of the way that it works that just a relatively small number of messages will quickly burn through the 8 MB/month of data I'm allowed (or whatever plan I get).

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by irq:
[B]Just a word of warning, for anyone out there that uses the PalmOS AIM client: it stinks. It really messed up my Treo last night, but luckily I was able to fix it without a hard reset. Basically, AIM managed to corrupt itself somehow, and would cause the Treo to reset itself, after every reset. The only way to stop it was to do a up-arrow reset, and then delete AIM. Took me a while to figure out that I had to delete it, though.

Will someone please make a new AIM client for PalmOS?

- - - - - -

Ah... I thought I'd seen this msg here...

I got a TREO 300 last week and the experience has been an advanced case of EADS: Early Adopter Dysfunction Syndrome. It all began when the CS rep at the local Sprint store handed me the thing without saying much of anythign about how it works or how to get it to work, and has gone steadily down hill from there. For example, I could retreive e-mail from my reglar POP3 account, but could not send via the spintpcs smtp server because no body bothered to tell me that I had to go in to sprintpcs.com and configure a different password for e-mail there. And so on, ad infinitum, ad nauseum.

And then there are the countless hours on "hold" waiting for a "technical support specialist."

Anyway, yesterday was the worst, the thing started crashing and demanding a hard reset, from which I am still trying to recover (I'd backed up all databases, but none of the categories for "todo" and "memo pad" made it into the database restore, etc etc).

The crash was so consistent during hotsync that the tech-support people told me there was something wrong with the device and told me to retun to the store to swap it out for a new one. Of course, the experience at the store was as abysmal as the experiences on the phone. Nobody REALLY wants to help you.

When finally got home with the new TREO, I went to do a hotsync and discovered two things:

1) the hotsync software automatically tried to restore databases even though I had checked "do nothing" for most of the functions in the conduit menus, most notably all the "system" and "install" conduits. So the hotsync tried to make my new TREO into my "old" TREO and guess what... it worked. It crashed all over again. So, the guy on the phone who told me the unit was defective was wrong.

And the only way I could get the hotsync to NOT try to "restore databses" (and crash all over again) was by creating a whole new user name, importing my databases into that, and then hotsyncing the new user.

2) clearly, something in the applications was causing the problems, and based on this msg, I'm guessing it is the AIM client - a pity, because that's a nice function to be able to do with a wireless handheld unit like this.

So, tell me, IRQ, were you getting "Fatal Alert... Fatal Exception" errors until you stopped using AIM ?

I've gone well off topic here, but thought it might be useful to others to hear a little bit of my experience. I basically think the TREO 300 is a GREAT GIZMO, unfortunately the "customer support" and "technical support" behind it are not ready for prime time, and anybody who buys one can expect many hours of grief trying to get it to work as advertised.

Any way... before I re-install the Palm AIM client... should I not bother?

Thanks,

--PS

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Sorry, I neglected to register for this forum before posting the previous msg... I've registered now and am leaving this msg should anybody wish to contact me directly with their reply. Thanks,

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Where do I get Treo300SMS?

Yoav
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Handspring now offers RechEcho for graffiti support on 90/180/270/300 Treos. It can be downloaded for free and comes from the creators of JOT (CIC).

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Did you know that you cannot check AOL email on the treo 300? Sprint said the software is not compatible

Andrew
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The review is right on. Once I downloaded Eudora I was sending and receiving pop/smtp mail. I got a java based msn messenger client for free that is pretty cool (best part being the price of course) Phone is awesome. Easy to use call screen. Cool factor is very high. Everyone who comments about waiting for something else has valid point. So what? There will always be something cooler coming. McFly........

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quote:
Originally posted by mellybelly:
Did you know that you cannot check AOL email on the treo 300? Sprint said the software is not compatible

You can buy the AOL for Palm application from Handango.com for $19.95 -- works great with my Treo 300 on Sprint, and has not only a solid e-mail client (for AOL anyway), but also buddy list, IMs, your AOL stock portfolios, news and more.

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Well, here's a stupid question. I can not find the ampersand key (&) and so can't get the date on my treo 300. I went to far to look for it sober in natural light in the middle of the day.

And a 2nd question. The keyboard lights up when I use the phone, but not for other apps. Is there any way to get it to light up for, say, a memo?

Thanks. Nice review. Love my treo.

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guys, why get ripped off and pay $19.95 for AIM? you can download it for free at:
http://www.aol.co.uk/aim/download.html

Enjoy!

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quote:
Originally posted by msetzer:
No need to respond. I just wanted to compliment you as this was by far the best Treo 300 review I've seen so far. I've had mine for almost 2 months & use the crap out of it but I still learned a thing or two from your review.

This is my fourth phone/pda device and is far superior to anything else I've seen.... provided you don't need to get Sprint tech support involved in anything.


Have you tried the Samsung SPHi500 or the Kyocera 7135 or the Samsung i330 or one of the Windows OS systems, such as the T-Mobile or Hitachi systems? I would be interested in your thoughts on the comparisons oe each one? Thanks

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do you know of any web sites where i can download ringtones for the treo 300? thanks
damanjg@yahoo.com

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You can get the handspring treo 300 phone on ebay for around 100 dollars. Is it worth it and why are they so cheap.

Rachel
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yeah im about to buy one off ebay for $40.
I was just completly confused about Sprints phone plans.
Do i need to buy 2 plans one for the phone and another for the internet and how much does it cost? any recomendations on which plan to use?

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I purchased this expensive treo 300 and I thought I was going to have a wonderful experience with my treo 300. Since my purchase I've had the phone for less than 1 year and had to have it replaced 4 times. I would never reccommend this phone to anyone who cares about his money. The Treo 300 was the worst investment for me. My service provider Sprint did nothing to resolve this issue. Apparently the cheap, plastic phones flip is a "known defect" and Sprint will not replace or give me credit towards another phone since the flip continues to break. The company PalmOne does not support this product. Furthermore, I personally would not reccommend Sprint or any PalmOne product to anyone.

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please could you send me the tool (i have lost it and I cannot find it anywhere) or could you send the link.
my email is mar.demartino@eidosis.com

quote:
Originally posted by Yoav:
Handspring now offers RechEcho for graffiti support on 90/180/270/300 Treos. It can be downloaded for free and comes from the creators of JOT (CIC).


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> Apparently the cheap, plastic phones flip is a "known defect" and Sprint will not replace or give me credit towards another phone since the flip continues to break. <

I had to replace the flip section once after it broke during the 18 months I've owned the phone so far. What I decided to do in order to minimize the amount I strain the hinge was always to keep the headset plugged in. That lets me receive calls without flipping at all, and it removes the worst thing I think causes strain on the weak joint: talking on the phone with it flipped open. Even when I initiate a call that requires the phone to be opened, I use the headset and close the flip section as soon as possible.

My main problem with the phone is the extremely poor talk-time. Nowadays I'm lucky to get an hour on the phone even with a fresh charge before it runs out. Buying the add-on battery from Sprint PCS accessories is a big help, but that battery makes the phone extremely large and I don't like to take it with me because it's too fat for my pocket when attached.


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